Interview with Jason, Kat, DavidP, keke, Teabag, Crystal, Edward, isaac, Lucky, Laydie, Kathy, Lisa, Apache, Janet, Ron and Ryan
JM: Did you always have access to necessary medications? Jason: No Kat: No, and they don't give you water to take meds
and they didn't admin them correctly. DavidP: When you first come in, you're processed initially. They talk
about your health, and so on, and you tell them what you've
been receiving prior to coming to jail, or what you need at the
jail. Then they check with your pharmacy and your doctor. Those
people are going to know. It's kind of embarrassing, but they
can't take your word for it, so they check with the pharmacy and
the doctor to see how often they prescribe it, and the pharmacy
to see how often it's filled and how to provide it. The jail does
give it, but most of the time, they won't give the exact
manufacturer of the drug. They give a generic generic, but if
something new comes up, it's very, very difficult to have a new
prescription prescribed. They don't go out of their way to help
you. The doctor that's there, they're there all day, 12 hours.
Nurses are there 24 hours, but if you want something new,
there's one doctor that serves 300 people, and they don't work
fast when they want to work. It's difficult to get new
prescriptions if something comes up, whatever it may be. In my
case, it was really tough because I have gout. It's a condition
that swells up, and you can get it in different areas. You can get
it in your toes, and it's the most painful thing. I've had broken
bones, I've had a lot of things from sports that I've played, and
there's never been any pain as great as this gout, and it comes
on in a moment's notice, and within one hour, it's 0-10, and
when it's a 10, it's like a women giving birth. It's tremendous.
Anyway, it came on when I was there, and it comes on from poor
food, and a lot of sodium can cause it. Anyway, it came on to me
when I was there, and I couldn't even walk. I literally couldn't
walk. I had to have a cane and a wheelchair and crutches. They
wouldn't give me a thing. They didn't care - they wouldn't give
me a thing. It's difficult to get anything new, other than what
you're prescribed.
keke: hell no you could put in a sick slip and be
called to the nurse 2weeks later Teabag: NO Crystal: No they were withheld, generics substituted and I
became ill. Edward: no,the officers and in house doctors would tell
you nothings wrong with you isaac: yes Lucky: yes Laydie: yes Kathy: Sometimes Lisa: no Apache: no Janet: NO. Ron: no Ryan: yes
JM: How did you get your medications? Jason: Once during booking from a nurse, for blood
presure Kat: Nurse who did not wear gloves even when giving
eye drops before giving me my meds. Disgusting! DavidP: The nurses come around three times a day. For me, I only
needed it twice a day, so I only saw them twice a day, but three
times a day, they come to your area with a cart with all of the
drugs and medicine in a cart. Most of the time it's already put
into little Dixie cups with your name on it prior to them coming
to your area. They just call your name out and give you the cup
that has your pills inside, so they don't pour it out there,
They've already taken the time to do it. It's already ready, so
they bring it to you. They made you swallow while you're there.
You can't take the cup and walk away. There's even a guard
there with the nurse to make sure no one causes trouble,
because a lot of guys try. keke: please Teabag: You would have to put in request slips with the
Social Workers whom would come every 2 weeks.
The request would then POSSIBLY be processed
where you would be sent to see a doctor at the
dispensary and then if approved would be sent to
the hospital wing to be examined etc etc and get
the medications you needed. If you were (prior
to incarceration) prescribed psych medications
there was a 80% chance that if you spent 1-2
months in the county jail fighting your case
that you would not receive the medications that
you so desperately needed. Crystal: Nurse gives them and you must swallow them in
front of the nurse. Edward: after being sick and showing signs of being sick
sometimes you could get proper meds. isaac: nurse Lucky: nurse Laydie: by asking the guards respectfully,and informing
them of your need for different kinds of
medicines Kathy: Have to ask for the guards to let you put in a
request for medics. Lisa: n/a Apache: put in reqest Janet: A NURSE COMES 2 TIMES ADAY AND GIVES MEDS TO
EVERY ONE PERSCIBED.IF SHE COMES. Ron: no Ryan: nurse came to the deck
JM: What types of punishments were incurred for abuse of drugs? Jason: Na Kat: Don't know DavidP: There's a lot of shenanigans. A lot of guys get pain pills and stuff,
and they sell them in there. They try this all the time, so the guard
is always there. They bring it to your area. I just kept it nice and
easy - I didn't want any problems. I wanted to get out of there as
quickly as possible. So again, you don't want to cause any
problems to get you screwed up. keke: none they tell you to throw it away you got
crooked officers Teabag: If you were a known Heroin or Cocaine user prior
to incarceration and you complained that you
needed medication or wanted medical attention
that the request slips you submitted would be
thrown into the trash by the Corrections
officers. Officers would call you a HYPE or
generally mistreat you if you were dope sick! Crystal: NA Edward: dont know isaac: beaten Lucky: never saw any drug abuse Kathy: Don't know, did not abuse drugs. Lisa: n/a Apache: segragation transfer to worse place Janet: YOU GO TO THE HOLE Ron: solitary confinement Ryan: segregation
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Why did the Jail cut the people there that respond to emergencies. My son was beaten up there and he told me it took 2 hours before jail guard finally decided to walk him from Div 9 with a severe head injury to Cermak. He then was taken by ambulance to Cook COunty Trauma. Im suing them
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My son has epilepsy and is on Methadone and a large amount of xanax. He booked in 4 days ago and he is on Cermak but I have never heard a word from him. do you think he wil l die in there from not getting his meds? I have vslled cermak and left messages but they never call me back. I just want to know his not laying there having seizures from not getting his meds, He has terrible grand mal seizures and if that happens will they take him to the hopsital?
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My man got locked up on monday, today is already wednesday and he needs his medication, where do I get the number to Cermak to call them for him and tell them he NEEDS HIS MEDICATION?? SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP!!
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My son was just put in there today and has a broken jaw, will he received what he needs. He has to go to cook county hospital for a check today , will he be able to get there????
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Permanent Link Diane Gaertner
Wednesday, September 3, 2008
No they will NOT take you to previously scheduled doctor's appointments. No they will not provide adequate medical care or a diet appropriate for your illness with the exception of a diabetic diet.
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The jail can provide 15 different specialty diets for a wide variety of medical problems, not just diabetes. LInda Shelton is a psychiatrically disturbed person who distorts FACTS to support her agenda of anti-jail propaganda.
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The jail cannot take incarcerated individuals to outside doctors' appointments while they remain in custody. The detainees who require specialty consultation and special medical services are given 100% access to superb care and followup at the Cook County Hospital System. All specialty services are available at all times, and no one is denied appropriate use of these services. In the very rare event that someone needs a service that cannot be performed at the CCH, those patients have special arrangements made to bring them to special clinics at outside hospitals. Jail medical staff do an excellent job of procuring medical records from outside providers to make certain they follow all medically necessary treatments and protocols. The jail doctors do not make independant assessments of complex medical cases without first working together with the outside providers. Linda is a bitter unhappy woman who preys on the general ignorance of medical realities with the average person. And you KNOW this is true, Linda. Admit it.
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Yet another insanely false self-absorbed incorrect RANT from one of the most classic BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER patients I have ever had the displeasure of interacting with. Linda is nutso... beware of taking any of her responses to heart. She has numerous lunatic axes to grind with CCJ, and her opinions are 100% biased and not based on real FACTS. Readers BEWARE.
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my daughter is on two medications that she NEEDS every morning but when they took her from court to the jail house, they did not let me give her, her medication. She has NOT called me so far as she was taken into custody yesterday. How long does it take before you get to make a phone call to your parents, etc. when you first get into jail? This worries me because she NEEDS her meds! Thank you
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In general to save money the jail does not provide medications prescribed on the outside for days to a week and then they change them from brand names to generics even if this change is not appropriate. They also will not give meds at the appropriate times as prescribed by outside doctors. The med schedule may be interrupted by going to court, shortage of nursing personnel and inadequate exams and diagnoses by jail doctors who will write that you are not suffering from the conditions that were diagnosed and treated by outside doctors.
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Yet ANOTHER 'crackers' rant from a woman with serious psychiatric needs. The jail does not deny/deprive any detainee of needed medications or treatments. The jail has access to any/all medications at all times. If something is a non-forumlary item, a comparable replacement may be prescribed, but if there is no comparable medication the pharmacy will order the needed medication immediately. Linda has a knack for taking advantage of people without medical knowledge, making everything sound life threatening when in the VAST majority of cases a switch to a generic medication is 100% acceptable practice. As a 'doctor', she knows this, but preys on most peoples' ignorance of how medications work. It's like saying you need "advil" and the jail gives you ibuprofen (the generic form of advil) and then complaining you did not receive the correct medication. Look at the label... Advil is nothing more than ibuprofen with a pretty colored candy coating on the outside. The active ingredient is ibuprofen no matter how you slice it, and this is how the jail operates. Linda is correct in that the jail does want to 'save money' (i.e. use taxpayers' money responsibly) by using pharmacologically identical medications that cost far less then Brand Name medications. This is 100% fine to do, and in fact is a very responsible way to limit excessive costs.
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That was absolutley hilarious.. Does the jail give detainees narcotic medication? like xanax percocet vicodin? if they were given this medication for a pre exsisting condition on the outside??? m from miami and here the jail is narcotic free that means even if you were on xanax and methadone or any other narcotic you can not recieve it once you are in there coustody??? is this true in chicago as well??
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Stephanie, thanks for appreciating my humor, but there isn't much that is truly funny about Linda Shelton. She does provide 'some' legitamate information on this site, but be VERY careful which of her pieces of advice you take to heart. To answer your question about narcotics? If a patient requires narcotic strength pain medication (for example... cancer pain or broken bones) the medication will be provided. It will be dispensed "dose by dose" meaning the detainee will not be permitted to hold onto a supply of the medicine. They will be placed in a medical unit where they can access a 24 nurse to dispense pain meds. If you have another medical condition that requires psychotropics like xanax, you must undergo an evaluation by the mental health staff. They will contact outside providers/pharmacies to confirm that the need for the medicine is genuine, and if it is, the medication will be provided. Again, be very aware that Linda Shelton will tell you otherwise, but she has a very specific agenda/smear campaign against the jail and will never admit that anything positive happens there.
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